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Mo Ryan scoops new Dany

Filed Under: Casting, News

Emilia ClarkeFollowers of the Chicago Tribune’s Maureen Ryan on Twitter (or MoFo’s, as we’re typically known) got a nice little surprise around 5:00 ETA when she tweeted a link to her latest article: The Watcher An excerpt from the exclusive:

I can exclusively report that actress Emilia Clark has been cast in the role of the exiled noblewoman in the fantasy drama. GOT Clark appears to be a newcomer to U.S. television. There’s a profile for an “Emilia Clarke,” which may not be the actress in question, on IMDb.com. That profile lists only a British drama, “Doctors,” on “Clarke’s” resume (and my understanding is that the “Games” actress does not have an “e” on the end of her name).

Fire And Blood: Emilia Clark, eh? Will the real Emilia Clark please stand up? Chris Pierce found this Emilia Clarke (the same one from IMDB) though clearly her name has an “e” tacked on at the end. More news as it comes.

UPDATE: WiC poster Milan found this commercial starring Emilia Clarke. She reminds me of Ellen Page, a bit. Still no real idea if this is our Dany.

UPDATE: Turns out the Emilia that will be Dany does have an “e” at the end of Clarke. See the new post for the latest info.

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144 Comments

  1. Posted May 21, 2010 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    Whilst I understand people's enthusiasm, I am dubious about linking to potentially unconnected people's Facebook and Myspace pages just because they've got the same name.

    Despite Mo's comments, the experienced actress does seem the more logical choice (although they'll need to dye her hair). I'm guessing GRRM will give us some more info, hopefully over the weekend (I assume we won't get official news from HBO until Monday at the earliest via the HR).

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  2. Posted May 21, 2010 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    If I had to choose, I would rather take Emilia Clarke with an "e". She's an actress, right age, right build, right skills.
    I think she has the kind of beauty that breaks your heart when you see a tear running down her cheek… absolutely marvelous.

    Btw, who is Emilia in the other pictures?. I see two girls on both.

    Woohoooo !! We've got our Dany!! I'm excited!! :D :D

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  3. Posted May 21, 2010 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    There is another pic of possibe Dany found by Elio and Linda from Westeros site & blog.

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  4. Posted May 21, 2010 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    I found this bebo link to a Emilia Clark and the profile pic seems to indicate it is the same girl from the myspace/facebook links,
    she is 19 from Manchester, and is apparently attending college. There is nothing about acting in the bio, so perhaps it is the Emilia Clarke with an e, afterall. I think we need to wait for an official announcement though from HBO we don't want to continue posting about the wrong individual.

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  5. Posted May 21, 2010 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    Ok, this is getting weird.

    I swear the last comment was written before I see the commercial that Milan pointed out on the last thread.

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  6. Posted May 21, 2010 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    I personally don't see the harm in linking a Facebook page (both Facebook and MySpace can be made invite-only, so all you really see is what the user wants you to see). The worst case scenario only happens if she is Dany; that's when all the ridiculous hate usually comes. Until then we're just looking for the facts.

    I know some of you don't like the look of the Clarke (with an "e") girl, but her eyes are gorgeous and huge. She could probably play years younger than she is. But in any woman's case, they'd have to give her a wig. Targaryen "natural silver" is a rarity I hear tell, so blonde, brunette, it makes no real difference.

    Both are damned pretty. Also, Ran at Westeros came across
    this. He thinks "Emily" may be Emilia.

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  7. paulgude
    Posted May 21, 2010 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    You know, I have to agree with Adam on this one.

    Like I said in the comments, the Facebook/Myspace Clark may be a red herring.

    This is the same Emilia as on IMDB:
    http://www.spotlight.com/7655-7861-0395

    She has a listing for Samaritans, which has the following video, which looks like the picture on IMDB/Spotlight:

    If this is the right Emilia, it'd be pretty great:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/samaritans#p/u/2/Atje

    Thanks to Milan for pointing out the Samaritan connection.

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  8. paulgude
    Posted May 21, 2010 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    I think you're right, and that Emilia Clarke with an E seems the much more likely candidate. Mo Ryan's statement that it may not be the same person is the only reason I have to doubt, and even then she just said "may."

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  9. Posted May 21, 2010 at 10:57 pm | Permalink

    I agree, Paul.
    I like her very much at that video.

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  10. paulgude
    Posted May 21, 2010 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    I know it's weird that I disagree with myself, but the work of Clarke for SAMARITAN really puts her over the top for me. Like I mentioned in the last thread, it could be that Myspace/Facebook Emilia Clark may be a red herring. If anything, I get a really good feeling off of Clarke, which is different from any of the other potential Dany actresses we've seen so far.

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  11. shadallion
    Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:03 pm | Permalink

    Wow, I hope it's the one who was crying in the commercial, she is gorgeous and very emotive.

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  12. Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Really, I'm just glad I have a job in which it is almost on task to surf this site. :)

    No really, I swear…I'm just looking up information about the Fevre Dream comic…

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  13. Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    HBO ninja in disguise?

    We cought you, at last! ;)

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  14. The Winter Rose
    Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    I like the Emilia (with the "e") in the commercial. If she is the one who is cast as Dany, she's a good choice, but they will need to be a tad careful on her angles as I think she tends to look a bit older on profile. And of course they will need to likely pale her eyebrows to match her wig. But yeah, she has a great youthful look and very expressive eyes. There's definitely an air of vulnerability there that Dany needs to have.

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  15. Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    Not to be too much of a psycho about this, but I'm pretty positive the person in the Samaritans commercials is the Emilia from IMDB:
    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1536790016/nm3592338

    This picture is the same as the one on the spotlight page, and if you look at all of those pictures she has a mole pattern on her left cheek.

    The same pattern is present on the girl in both the "Lisa's Story" and "Portrait of Abuse" videos.

    Now if only we knew for sure that Emilia Clark = Emilia Clarke, I could rest easy. I have no doubt in my mind that she could play Dany.

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  16. Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    lol not so much

    I work at a comic book store. It's on task to see what fandoms are doing right? right?

    Also, today I found a comic adaptation of the Beauty and the Beast TV show, which is mildly amusing.

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  17. Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    If it is indeed Emilia Clarke (the young woman on IMDB and in the two samaitans commercials) who has been cast as Daenerys, then I congratulate HBO on their fine choice.

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  18. Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:31 pm | Permalink

    Emilia Clarke can most certainly do scared, sensitive Dany. If this is indeed her, they've pretty much hit the nail on the head with regard to that. And Clarke is stunning.

    Can she do imperious, driven, dragon-queen Dany? We'll see. Whoever is cast … we'll see.

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  19. Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    I'm so exited about any Thrones (potential)news, that i got goosebumps watching that commercial. Lookswise and the little acting that we saw was very convincing. And she looks young and all of that.

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  20. Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:38 pm | Permalink

    Obviously, if it *is* her, they've seen her read for the pyre scene and decided she's the one. Like you said, though, we'll have to wait now for further confirmation. This is the first possible Dany for whom I've been really excited, so I still have my fingers crossed.

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  21. Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:42 pm | Permalink

    This Emilia Clarke from Samaritans might look less like Dany of my imagination than Tamzin did, but forgetting that, she looks great. I'm officially relieved! An unknown with some acting experience and fitting looks, what more could have we wished for? Her acting abilities are still to be seen, of course, but I suppose we can trust in HBO – for now anyway.

    Hopefully other casting news will follow soon :)

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  22. Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    Am I the only one who sees a more tragic-looking Ellen Page? This girl's eyes are huge. Maybe the lost love-child of Ellen Page and Elijah Wood.

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  23. Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:49 pm | Permalink

    Ellen Page for sure. I noticed that right away.

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  24. Marga
    Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:59 pm | Permalink

    Firts time here.
    GRRM confirm: Dany is Emilia Clarke ( with the "e") http://grrm.livejournal.com/2010/05/21/

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  25. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    I think we have to wait for the official announcement to know which one was chosen to play Dany.

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  26. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    Awesome, Marga!

    FaB, it's wonderful update time!

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  27. The Winter Rose
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    Yeah, I can see that… which is odd because usually Ellen Page annoys the crap out of me. But this girl didn't. Guess we'll just have to see. I am eager to hear a full official announcement.

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  28. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    Great! I'm sold on her already!! At least i feel that way right now!

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  29. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:11 am | Permalink

    Yeah. I'm 100% for her. This is great news for the show in my opinion.

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  30. Posted May 21, 2010 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    I like the Emilia Clarke from IMDB, so here's a quick image of her as Dany (based on this great photo from her page at spotlight.com): http://www.spotlight.com/photo/~540×540/ffffff/lo
    http://westeros.ru/wp-content/uploads/Emilia-Clar

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  31. seamusk
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:18 am | Permalink

    It's the one from IMDB. GRRM just confirmed.

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  32. FrannyB
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:31 am | Permalink

    Gorgeous girl, emotive acting (omg what a sad commercial). I couldn't stop staring
    at her eyes & lips- she's strong on the inside, I can see it. She's Dany 100%. Best
    wishes Emilia, and welcome to the role that bursts you to SUPERSTARDOM!

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  33. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:35 am | Permalink

    I just can't stress how important it is that we have someone like Emilia as Dany. I care about what happens to her already. I have a feeling the audience will give Dany's story its proper place in the series rather than thinking it's a "detour" from the events happening with the Starks and Lannisters.

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  34. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    Speaking of which. I think she looks like she might appeal to the female audience. She's not a bombshell, yet very pretty and seems quite "real" from the litlle we've seen of her. As many have said before, i think the Dany story might draw in a lot of females. Am i getting ahead of myself? Possibly, but so what?

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  35. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    Also, Emilia Clarke appears to be only 5'2" (157cm) long. That will surely help in making her appear young among such characters as Drogo and Jorah.

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  36. The Winter Rose
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:40 am | Permalink

    Whew! Soooooo relieved. I really like what I saw in that commercial. Great casting. I am excited to see her with white hair and violet eyes! Congrats Miss Clarke! ^___^
    And wow, so far everyone seems very happy with her. That's a first!

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  37. seamusk
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:43 am | Permalink

    I agree that Dany is one important key to generating a female following. And yes, it's hard not to be impressed with Emilia.

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  38. paulgude
    Posted May 21, 2010 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    I think Dany is going to be someone that we can relate to and feel for, rather than just eye candy. This is a really good thing. Yet more evidence pointing to the fact that Game of Thrones is going to be serious drama, rather than the fantasy TV folks are used to seeing.

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  39. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    Oh my god. She's Dany. Completely and unequivocally Dany.

    I. Cannot. Freaking. Wait.

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  40. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:45 am | Permalink

    And wow does she look a lot like Kit Harrington, especially in the eyes (if necessary ;) I imagine that the HBO show gets major spoilers for the end of the books in order to cast these roles).

    I was getting nervous after that one crappy youtube Dany audition that was posted, but that commercial, wow. WOW. I didn't picture her face like that, but once she has silver hair & violet eyes I'm sure she'll be great. Also, GRRM saying "She gave some kickass readings, winning out over some amazing competition" sounds pretty damn certain. Definitely passes for 16 in this commercial as her spotlight resume says.

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  41. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    Welcome Marga, and since GRRM acknowledged over on his blog that it is Emilia Clarke, we can breathe a sigh of relief concerning this casting choice. Like some have mentioned already she has that lovely attractive type of face that people will instantly feel affection toward, especially with those large gentle eyes of hers.
    I really like her bio, especially that she is attending Drama Centre London, which has an impressive list of alumni and the fact that this school is widely known and respected for it's training of actors in method technigue's along with improvisation is a major plus for her.
    She also appears to very athletic and skilled in the classical arts, both great attributes, though she might have to lay off the sailing, skiing a little since I am sure HBO will have it stated she cannot participate in physical hobbies that might cause serious injury to her.

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  42. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:47 am | Permalink

    She also looks a bit like Harry Lloyd, which even readers of the first few chapters can appreciate!

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  43. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    The commercial is one year old, btw. But i actually think she could even pass for 14 in that one.

    Also, she's short and slim, and next to big bulky Jason Momoa, she'll definately look young enough.

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  44. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    I honestly haven't been this excited since Dinklage, which tells me yet again that they're interested in getting this right.

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  45. seamusk
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:50 am | Permalink

    do i have to avoid reading these threads to avoid end of the series spoilers?

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  46. Chris
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:51 am | Permalink

    Awesome! I was always a Tamzin supporter. But I would say I was behind her about 80% and am behind Emilia Clarke about 95%. This is, of course, based off of limited information.

    I thought that no matter who they cast for Dany, there would be some backlash. I have a feeling that I may have been wrong because I think its possible that just about everyone will be okay with this casting. Not sure why, just get that feeling. She's gorgeous, but not in an overbearing kind of way. She also has an air of both confidence and vulnerability, which is vital to the success of Dany's portrayal.

    Only downside is she doesn't look quite as young as Tamzin, but I'm in the camp that it really isn't THAT important that she looks 15. Just young and naive enough to make her story believable.

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  47. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:52 am | Permalink

    To be 100% sure, yes. WiC generally disourages spoilers, but people will forget.

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  48. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:52 am | Permalink

    Great news!
    Finally, 'we' have a Daenerys – and she seems to be the right one! :)

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  49. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:52 am | Permalink

    that was the first thing i thought!

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  50. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    Yeah, I'm in no way worried about her looking too old. The reality of her situation isn't going to be lost. This is going to be a tough, amazing show.

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  51. seamusk
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    that's an absurd spoiler policy. I can understand allowing what's in the books, but beyond the published books?

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  52. paulgude
    Posted May 21, 2010 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, I'm one of the huge proponents on Dany looking young enough to make the fact that she's getting married off for an army that much more uncomfortable. I'm completely fine with how old Emilia looks.

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  53. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:56 am | Permalink

    "Only downside is she doesn't look quite as young as Tamzin"

    -I disagree for the record. Maybe in her profile pic, but i think the video shows her more like she is. Theres less room for cheating than on pics, and she might have chosen an older looking picture of herself to land different roles.

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  54. Lex
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:57 am | Permalink

    FINALLY!!! REAL NEWS!!!

    (I'll process my thoughts about the actual casting soon, but I had to say that).

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  55. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:58 am | Permalink

    I think that's definitely the case. She's got herself listed as 16-25, so an older looking picture would be helpful for that.

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  56. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:01 am | Permalink

    Same here!! :)

    Also, can I just say that I am TOTALLY RELIEVED that Elena Satine is not Dany. I mean, she's gorgeous and all…but I just was not feeling her as Dany.

    Here's hoping she's Shae, though ;)

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  57. Lex
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:04 am | Permalink

    My first impression was that Clarke (the brunette) was the one, and I liked her.

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  58. The Winter Rose
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:07 am | Permalink

    Yeah, I agree with sjwenings. I think she looks younger than Tamzin.
    In that commercial, I think she can pass for 15-16 years old.

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  59. The Winter Rose
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:08 am | Permalink

    Yeah it's great to see that so far everyone agrees on her. It's a WiC first! XD
    Let's hope it stays that way *crosses fingers*

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  60. Chris
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:08 am | Permalink

    Touche. I will say she definitely doesn't look too old to play Dany which is the most important part. I'm sold either way :)

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  61. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:10 am | Permalink

    Awesome! I was a Tamzin fan, but Emilia looks to be a fantastic fit. The emotion she showed in those commercials was very convincing. Happy!

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  62. Lex
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:14 am | Permalink

    Okay… WOW… she looks perfect.

    Perfect!

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  63. Who Is Jacopo Belbo?
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:15 am | Permalink

    no offence but anyone who would rather spend 50 minutes a week watching Emilia Clarke rather than Elena Staine is either a girl or a nonce. boooooo. i mean you could hardly do worse than TM but with Elena sitting out there waiting to be in this show i find it hard to fathom why you would go with somebody entirely unknown.

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  64. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:16 am | Permalink

    Don't jinx it lol

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  65. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:19 am | Permalink

    Well, obviously nobody except GRRM himself _knows_ much anything beyond published books.* Everything about the future of the series is just speculation (including the very publication of the next volume…).

    * OK, there's the few chapters from the Dance he has read in public, but those do not count, really…

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  66. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:19 am | Permalink

    Well, she sure is purdee, has a great look I can see working for the role and she can cry on command, which is always useful for an actor. That's about all I can say about her since she's so unknown, but I'm certainly very hopeful they made a good choice.

    God, what a first role to get right out of drama school!

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  67. sjwenings
    Posted May 21, 2010 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Our first real negative post, after so many positive ones, it has got to be a record of sorts. This is cause for celebration!

    I guess i'm a nonce, btw. Whatever that is….

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  68. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:20 am | Permalink

    And now for something completely different… An hour ago Jace Lacob of the Televisionary wrote the following on twitter:
    "Just watched pre-recast #GameOfThrones pilot. Fantastic stuff. Will be very interested to see the recast/reshot version. #HBO #GOT"

    Sounds encouraging! :)

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  69. Abyss
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:22 am | Permalink

    I liked her right away. She has the right look and punchy eyes. And she is an (relatively) unknown, witch is allways a good thing.
    Does anyone know her age? It isn´t important, I totally buy her as 15-16. I´m just curious.

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  70. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:25 am | Permalink

    Yeah man, Steve and Naysayer haven't made their appearances yet (lol)

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  71. Lex
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:26 am | Permalink

    I was one of the biggest admirers of Elena Satine, but I have to say Emilia Clarke looks far more suitable for the role.

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  72. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:27 am | Permalink

    I feel exactly the same way, Paul. I am so giddy right now.

    Trusting HBO, Nina, George, and D & D was the wise thing to do :)

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  73. Who Is Jacopo Belbo?
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:28 am | Permalink

    how is it negative to state a preference for an actress who has a larger body of work and more experience and who has a better look. ES looks regal. she has presence and bearing and grace. she has been classically trained on more than one continent and has the foreign, non english/british angle to pull off the foreignness of the Targeryns. this girl looks like a ragamuffin. she's pretty. i'd date her. but honestly she is no queen and doesn't have the bearing of one. and one commercial looking sad and crying into a phone is no way to judge if she can even act. i am hopeful that she has had decent training but nothing compared to ES.

    i have to say this is a huge disappointment for me. i was amused watching all of the danerys auditions because i just figured that ES was perfect so no real harm done. but bypassing such a great possible asset for the show for an entirely unknown quantity for such a pivotal role just makes absolutely no sense. very suspect imho.

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  74. Anonymous
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:30 am | Permalink

    Elena IS unknown, except to a few people on here who have developed a disturbing fixation on her based on a twitter account and a few pics.

    Ms Clarke is everything I hoped of Dany. If all you want from TV is a pretty face and a nice rack, there are plenty of shows to accomodate you.

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  75. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:31 am | Permalink

    According to her Spotlight bio, she's apparently also in this movie Fossils, but which doesn't have public information available on IMDb:
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1264086/

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  76. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:33 am | Permalink

    "I care about what happens to her already" ….

    Me too ^^ Watching the commercial, I was thinking, "Call… you can do it! Call!" Okay, so I wasnt *really* thinking that, but she certainly made me feel sympathetic. Maybe it's the 'doe-like' eyes? in any case, she's going to have HBO viewers rooting for her, I think.

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  77. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:33 am | Permalink

    "…anyone who would rather spend 50 minutes a week watching Emilia Clarke rather than Elena Staine is either a girl or a nonce."

    Or has a different take on the Dany character than eye candy. I don't think we're meant to *enjoy* watching what Dany goes through.

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  78. Who Is Jacopo Belbo?
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:36 am | Permalink

    are you a complete moron by trade or is it just a hobby? how is ES "just a nice rack"? her rack isn't even that big. the point is she has a refined and cultured quality, like that of a person raised into royalty her entire life would also have, because she is incredibly cultured. she isn't an entirely unknown quantity by any means and not just to stalkers. her training and back ground fit a role like danerys perfectly. the targyens are supposed to be FOREIGN … i think a russian girl trained in NYC and England would probably fit that pretty well in a cast of mostly British. you know as opposed to a doe eyed british girl next door type.

    not everyone has to agree here people. some of us liked ES not because, as somebody idiotically put it "comic book hot" (i think they need to read more comics) but because she had the regal bearing, grace and cultured background to perfectly pull of a person of royal blood … and of foreign/alien royal blood at that. but it isn't like i am not going to watch it or anything just disappointed by this choice. even TM was a better choice than this girl from strictly an experience point of view. let's hope this girl is some sort of undiscovered gem and can pull it off. i will hope so quite fervently. but it doesn't mean i don't have serious reservations about choosing her over ES who was imo a superiour fit for danerys.

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  79. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:36 am | Permalink

    I think she's a gorgeous girl, but she's also got that innocent "girl next door" kind of quality. Natural, fresh. "Real", like sjwenings said. Should do just fine in appealing to female viewers.

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  80. Lex
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:37 am | Permalink

    So happy right now.

    This made my day, and it's the best day on WinterIsComing ever since the greenlight over 2 months ago!

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  81. paulgude
    Posted May 21, 2010 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    The commercials are all we got to see, but I trust the casting directors and producers for the actual show who watched her audition have a fair enough amount of experience when it comes to judging talent.

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  82. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:40 am | Permalink

    Last I looked, Harry Lloyd isn't foreign…and he's portraying a Targaryen as well.

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  83. Who Is Jacopo Belbo?
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:43 am | Permalink

    well if you are so myopic to think that the only thing ES had going for he is "eye candy" (which by the way she isn't even really that eye-candyrific in general mainstream terms) than that is really sort of a you issue.

    the point is nobody knows anything about this girl. if we compare their training ES comes out ahead. if we compare their body of work ES comes out ahead. as for "how suited for the role" that is a personal thing … i prefer somebody who can encapsulate the alien/foreign nature of the targyens and the royal bearing and presence and persona that dany grows into but is part of her from birth. others prefer doe eyed vulnerability … that will be great for the one or two episodes that cover her growth into full fledged dany .. what then? nobody is going to tell me that this new girl, on the surface and from what little can be known now, is more suited for QUEEN Dany than ES. maybe more suited for the pre-Queen Dany but certainly not the after.

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  84. Who Is Jacopo Belbo?
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:50 am | Permalink

    harry just looks like an alien. and he has a very regal bearing. a good mix for his role. dany is NOT a ragamuffin. even as an exile she has led a very sheltered life and is still a royal, albeit an outcast one, in her very blood and soul. it is why she can grow so quickly into the queen dany we see later. it is just a matter of taste i guess. i would have preferred they erred on the side of finding a suitably royal and cultured and graceful and slightly alien dany for the majority of the show is her as the empowered queen. very little of the show will be showing dany as the vulnerable and scared girl dany so why pick somebody who's main strength is that? that was my major problem with TM. she just didn't have a royal je ne sais quois about her. she just always looked like a little girl and never really struck me as regal in bearing no matter her age (this was my take on watching her in the Tudors, could have been the writing).

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  85. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:54 am | Permalink

    Well, one of the few things we _do_ know is that the casting people chose her over Elena Satine. They might have made a mistake, such things happen. But also it's possible that Elena just wasn't as good. Such things happen.

    I rather trust the Nina Gold & co. than someone in the internet who starts by calling the opposing party (girls or) sex-offenders. That's somewhat negative attitude to begin with.

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  86. sjwenings
    Posted May 21, 2010 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    I only meant it was negative as in "i'm not happy about this".

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  87. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:58 am | Permalink

    I'm basing the eye candy statement on your original statement that anyone wanting to watch 50 minutes a week of Emilia Clarke vs. 50 minutes a week of Elena Satine was either female or pedophile. If you had another implication over the issue of attractiveness in *that particular statement* I missed it.

    Also, again, we're not casting the show. I was fine listening to people coming on here pining for Elena Satine when it was her and a few other people folks were guessing at, but SERIOUSLY?

    First of all, Emilia Clarke moved me more in a commercial where she didn't say a single word than any clips of Elena Satine ever did. That's a fact.

    Secondly, and more importantly, your opinion of how much more suitable she is simply doesn't matter. The fact that I don't agree with you doesn't matter. HBO made their choice, and your pick didn't make it. I'm happy I'm so elated about Emilia Clarke because that's who we've got.

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  88. Brude
    Posted May 21, 2010 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    I just figured out who's look she greatly reminds me of, it's been bugging me since I saw her – Piper Perabo (circa "Lost and Delerious"):

    http://www.autostraddle.com/wp-content/uploads/20

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005305/

    Actually, 10 years ago Piper would have been a fantastic choice for Dany, come to think of it. Hoping this girl will be as good.

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  89. Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:01 am | Permalink

    I assume it was the writing/character she played in The Tudors.

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  90. Lex
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:01 am | Permalink

    I agree that the first impression we get of Emilia is the Dany-as-vulnerable-young-girl, but we'd be fools if we believed that HBO didn't look at the full Daenerys spectrum when they auditioned this girl. Obviously she has also displayed some ability to be the strong-willed Dany we see down the road.

    Have a little faith in the casting department. So far, it's all been top notch.

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  91. Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:01 am | Permalink

    I just read your entire comment in the Comic Book Guy's voice.

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  92. Lex
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:02 am | Permalink

    This was a reply to WiJB, not paulgude.

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  93. Chris
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:04 am | Permalink

    Just to point out…

    I would argue that Emilia Clarke's body of work now trumps Elena Satine's. She has been, in fact, cast in a huge HBO production as a major role while I have no fucking clue what Elena has been in besides a few TV shows.

    Melrose Place?

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  94. Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:05 am | Permalink

    Exactly. The phone commercial just happened to give us one facet of a the character. We'd be total idiots to think that HBO cast her if that was the only thing she had to offer.

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  95. Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:06 am | Permalink

    Good point, nonetheless.

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  96. Guest
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:16 am | Permalink

    Fret not Elena Satine fans…. there are still potential roles for her out there
    http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9400000/el
    http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&section=&am

    :)

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  97. Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:18 am | Permalink

    I'd love to see her cast as Shae.

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  98. Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:21 am | Permalink

    And at least according to this place she has a leading role:http://www.emptagehallett.co.uk/emilia_clarke.htm

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  99. Jehphg
    Posted May 21, 2010 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    omgosh it’s so great to know that it really is her!!! just like paul, she is the first possible Dany for whom I’ve been really excited!!
    besides in the spotlight link:
    Sports:
    Horse-riding …
    i really think she has the pottencial

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  100. Guest
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:26 am | Permalink

    PS: better hire Ms Satine before Hollywood grabs her to play Wonder Woman or the next Bond girl. She's incredibly stunning.

    Emilia Clarke as Daenerys is the most "oh that's spot on" casting choice since this board tracked down Bran and the pics of Masie as Arya showed up.

    Getting giddy with excitement about the show again :D

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  101. Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:31 am | Permalink

    Recent graduate list of Drama Centre London has a little bit different pic than the Spotlight page, though only marginally (and its stamp-size):http://courses.csm.arts.ac.uk/drama/images/studen

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  102. Leah
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:38 am | Permalink

    well Chris…you should look harder…Elena Satine is starring in a movie with Adam Sandler and Nicole Kidman which is currently shooting in Hawaii…so i'd say in retrospect, ES does in fact have a bigger MOVIE career. and since people strive to be MOVIE stars and not TV stars, i'd say she does in fact have a bigger career.

    on 2nd hand…just because ES auditioned…doesn't mean she is currently available .

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  103. Entchen
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:40 am | Permalink

    My take (as a girl) is this: Elena Satine/Jason Momoa on-screen sex scene would be kind of hot. Dany/Drogo sex is not supposed to be hot, it's supposed to be DISTURBING. The young, vulnerable thing is extremely important, and what ES, in my opinion, lacked.

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  104. Leah
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:40 am | Permalink

    While Emilia is pretty, she is quite plain. I personally don't see her as Dany at all. I'd take Tamzin over her ANYDAY!!! I'm really quite disappointed with this casting. I think HBO really traded down.

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  105. Mike
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:46 am | Permalink

    I'm sorry, but that girl Emilia girl is average at best!!! She looks like a 2nd rate Ellen Page (so definitely not my Dany). While i never liked Ms. Merchant, i think she was far better suited, as she look more regal then this girl (who looks like she should be playing the servant instead of the princess)

    As an avid Elena Satine supporter, the 1 thing that bothers me about this casting is that I find this girl looks MUCH MUCH older then Elena (which seemed to be the biggest complaint). Not to mention she's never even acted in anything significant before…how do they know she won't totally choke when they start rolling???? To give a good audition in 1 thing, to deliver on the day and carry a show is a whoooollllee other story.

    I say EPIC FAIL!

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  106. Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:46 am | Permalink

    Exactly. When Momoa was cast I was really afraid they were going to go with the "okay, sure she was traded for an army but now it's her wedding night and she's turned on so everything is FINE!" angle that some people seem to get out of Dany's story. With the casting of Emilia, my faith is restored in the, "this is an epic, Greek tragedy style of trouble," take. It's so much more complicated than some folks want to make it, and HBO excels at complicated.

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  107. Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:47 am | Permalink

    I pretty much agree with you.

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  108. Mile
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:47 am | Permalink

    Anonymous…Elena has proven over and over to be a phenomenal actress…your argument is plain stupid my friend, so take it somewhere else.

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  109. Lisa
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 3:01 am | Permalink

    Look, I believe that Elena Satine is probably the better actress of the 2 (based on what I've seen she's up there with Emily Blunt and Rebecca Hall) but here is why I think she didn't get cast as DANY…

    Her beauty is quite threatening and overpowering. It's that Megan Fox factor where because she is so damn pretty people are NOT gonna like her. I think that's fact. So to cast her to play a character the audience is supposed to want to protect and take care of, is not the best idea. She is a lot better suited for the darker or more mythical roles such as Shae or Melissandre (is they decide to make her younger).

    While she is more regal then Emilia, she is also far more intimidating.

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  110. Chris
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 3:02 am | Permalink

    Just fyi, there's a few thumbnails on the spotlight page (including this one) that you can click on if you want to see a larger version of this image.

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  111. Lex
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 3:02 am | Permalink

    Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't it still uncomfirmed which role Elena Satine even auditioned for?

    Maybe it's obvious it was Dany, but I thought it was still uncomfirmed and I think that bears remembering.

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  112. Lex
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 3:03 am | Permalink

    What?? This girl looks very young.

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  113. Lisa
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 3:04 am | Permalink

    I'd rather see ES as Melissandre. She seems wayy too regal to play a whore (Shae)

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  114. lisa
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 3:06 am | Permalink

    yes you are absolutely right, it was never confirmed, everyone just assumed it was Dany.

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  115. Guest
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 3:11 am | Permalink

    she has a fat face…i really hope the rest of her is thin…since we'll be seeing a whole lot of her. (and Dany is meant to be frail)

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  116. paulgude
    Posted May 21, 2010 at 11:19 pm | Permalink

    I don't know, she showed a lot of contrast between her two audition videos on Vimeo. She's got range. I wouldn't be so quick to write her off as a potential Shae. You'd get a chance to see her in season one then, too.

    Like I said in the last thread, while I've never been supportive of her as Dany, it doesn't mean I don't think she's talented. There's a certain rabidness of her fan base that could easily turn people off to her, though. It certainly isn't doing her any favors.

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  117. The Winter Rose
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 3:32 am | Permalink

    Thank you Entchen! I get really disturbed when people were suggesting all these hot bombshells for Dany and wanted the Dany/Drogo stucc to be all sexy. It's NOT. Let's remember that in the books she is 13! And if you are envisioning hot sexy action between a 13 year old and an adult man, then …yeah… something wrong there. As you said, it's supposed to be disturbing. Dany's transition from an abused and vulnerable child to the mother of dragons is an amazing character development. You need someone who can do both. Personally, I simply couldn't buy Elena Satine being able to convey the starting stages of Dany. If you just want to start the character off at the end of the development then you miss the character itself. The transformation is a journey and one that is gripping and engaging to witness. Taking that away destroys the character. Elena Satine honestly looked WAY too old. There's no way she looked under 20 to me. Furthermore, Dany shouldn't start off being naturally regal. All because she has the blood of a dragon doesn't mean she carries herself with a regal bearing. Who was she raised by? Let's see, her older, abusive brother. Have you seen the way abused people carry themselves? They generally lack that quality because they've been kept down for so long. That's what's important about Dany is yes that she overcomes that eventually, but it's vital that we first see her in her most vulnerable state.

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  118. The Winter Rose
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 3:35 am | Permalink

    Lex we finally agree on someone! :D Yay! This calls for a celebration. Let's crack open a beer ;)

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  119. Posted May 22, 2010 at 3:36 am | Permalink

    Fat face? Really? Yer nuts.

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  120. The Winter Rose
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 3:39 am | Permalink

    Yeah seriously. Emilia actually looks 15-16, I honestly don't think Elena can pass for younger than 20. Sure Elena is lovely and I do hope she gets cast, but yeah, not Dany.

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  121. Posted May 22, 2010 at 3:43 am | Permalink

    The Winter Rose, you've beautifully articulated what I've been trying to say ever since people started suggesting hot men to be cast as Drogo. Any time someone said, "I wouldn't mind trading places with Dany," I cringed a bit. It looks like HBO gets it and I couldn't be happier.

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  122. Guest
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 3:44 am | Permalink

    This Elena girl probably has nooo idea how many die-hard fans she has on this board. Can you imagine having someone talk about you for months on end and know nothing of it? She probably auditioned for the show just like she has auditioned for a number of things (given that it's her job as an actress to audition all the time). I bet she hasn't thought twice about it since… yet here we are, still talking about this mystical girl. Like her or dislike her…there is clearly something about her to keep our tongues wagging for this long.

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  123. The Winter Rose
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 3:45 am | Permalink

    Yeah, I don't think she has a fat face. But I wouldn't worry about her build – according to her resume she seems to be involved in alot of athletics, including ballet, so I'm sure she's quite slender.

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  124. Posted May 22, 2010 at 4:06 am | Permalink

    No, she definitely knows about the site. We reported that she tweeted about auditioning for Thrones and then again reported when she responded to someone asking her for what role and said Dany. This was before it was confirmed that Dany was being recast and I guess HBO didn't like that because she freaked out, deleted her Twitter account, then had her boyfriend come on here in a huff, demanding we remove the stuff about Dany because the Twitter account was fake and the only thing that was true was she had an audition. At the time, we retracted the story and apologized as if we had made the mistake but now I feel it must be said that the whole thing with the "fake Twitter" was a lie. A poorly conceived one at that.

    It was kind of obvious to me at the time, and I'm surprised no one else caught on, that what happened was she realized she said too much and the only thing she and her boyfriend could come up with is claim the Twitter account was fake and the Dany thing was not true. I guess they figured after a while everything would blow over and she could reopen her Twitter. And what do you know, that is what happened (although now it is locked).

    The whole thing was handled poorly by Elena and I felt like the site kinda took the fall for it. I hope she goes on to have success, but I must say I'm glad it won't be in Game of Thrones.

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  125. Posted May 22, 2010 at 4:12 am | Permalink

    I've never really experienced reverse-PR like this before, but I honestly have to keep reminding myself that she's a talented actress who deserves the benefit of the doubt. The extreme push-back from her friends and fans has been a little weird in the past and is extremely off-putting at this point. Anyone who really supports Elena Satine and wants people to see her for her own merits should dial it back a few notches.

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  126. Lex
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 4:15 am | Permalink

    The Twitter account was real?!? That was lame of her to lie about it.

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  127. Posted May 22, 2010 at 4:17 am | Permalink

    I didn't know how much of that you wanted this mentioned, but that's exactly what I was hinting at below. I guess since you wrote it, it's okay to reference. She's fine as an actress but the conduct of the people associated with her isn't doing her any favors.

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  128. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:20 am | Permalink

    Sure, she's beautiful and talented and she'll probably go on to have a nice little career. Some of the folks here think, for some reason, she is going to become the next Angelina Jolie or something. I don't think some of these people realize how tough it is to become a super star in Hollywood. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of girls just like Elena trying to make it out there. I lived just off of Hollywood Blvd for 4 years and believe me, you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a beautiful, talented, and aspiring young actress. Not to take anything away from Elena, but she's a dime a dozen out in LA. I'm sure she'll have a fine career (once she stops tweeting stuff she shouldn't, that is) but I hope her supporters here are ready to move on. If you are such a big fan of Elena, go hit up one of the many Elena fan sites. But like Paul says, lets cool it with the over-the-top Elena Satine love on here.

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  129. Leah
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 4:53 am | Permalink

    Wic, for you to say that you don't want Elena on the show because she asked you to remove a tweet (whether bogus or not) is very mean spirited and I'm extremely disappointed to see you say that.

    as for the twitter, please stop spreading lies. I have been following the twitter acct at question since you brought it to our attention 2 months ago…and it is run by a 14 y/o Brazilian boy named Marcelo, who has turned it into a shrine for Elena's work after getting caught impersonating her. (very creepy, but fact)

    You are free to believe what you wish. But that twitter does not belong to her and never has.

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  130. Anonymous
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 5:05 am | Permalink

    I don't doubt she's a fair actress, her training is impressive, but I've never seen her in anything – her IMDb isn't exactly extensive. Over and over, I think not.

    It just annoys me that when Dany is cast as a pretty (obviously), talented (in HBO's opinion, good enough for me) and above all *fitting* (in most people here's view) actress, we still get complaints that she isn't gorgeous enough, as if her whole worth lies in getting men drooling over her. That would be unfaithful to the books and imo distract from the real reasons Daenerys is such a compelling character – the initial vulnerability, the growing self confidence etc.

    Ms Satine was one actress among hundreds and she came to our attention purely by chance. Now she's an obsession, brought up in every discussion. She's not my idea of Dany at all – too well developed and sexy. HBO cast someone they thought was better, and all some people can do is whine.

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  131. paulgude
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:30 am | Permalink

    How you treat people goes a long way to how they feel about you, and taking an adversarial approach when it's unnecessary won't endear people to you. Regardless of what's going on with that Twitter account, it could have been handled better. Even now, you're not really helping matters. I know it may not matter to you what other people think of her, but there really are much better ways to show your appreciation for an actress and to get people to recognize her talents than to be outright hostile to anyone you perceive as her enemy.

    Honestly, if you're actively trying to get people to dislike her you're hitting all the right buttons.

    The producers of the show read this site on occasion, too, so if you *really* want to try and help Elena get work on the show just let everything cool down.

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  132. guest
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 5:34 am | Permalink

    yawn. take it to a fan site and boo-hoo about elena's GOT woes over there. we're all done with elena satine here, didn't you notice?

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  133. Posted May 22, 2010 at 6:18 am | Permalink

    I'm satisfied with the selection, glad to get some news, hopefully more will follow in the next week.

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  134. Brude
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:47 am | Permalink

    I can attest to this as well, just the company I worked for had maybe a dozen actresses whose looks were on par with Satine and who all had excellent training and real talent, and we had a hell of a time getting any of them arrested, must less major roles. It's kind of amazing how many truly gorgeous women like that are out there in L.A.

    (By the way, where did you live WiC? I was right on Hollywood Blvd, between La Brea and Fuller – My old apartment building:http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=34.101895,… .)

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  135. Brude
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 2:52 am | Permalink

    I was privy to a few things about this whole twitter account fiasco, as well, and from all the info I got I'm quite certain WiC is telling the truth. If WiC only had his reputation to go on that he's built up here with good information and true scoops in the past, I think it would be enough to take his word for it. But being a mod over at Westeros.org has afforded me a bit more background on this particular incident, and what he says above jives completely with the information I got, as well.

    As for Satine, I really feel bad for how that all went down. I'm sure she had no idea just how rabid the fanbase for the project was and didn't think for a second that by twittering some stuff, mostly to friends probably, she'd bring down the holy wrath of the Internet upon her, but that's how it turned out. It's the kind of thing that really is up to her managers/agents to tell her to watch out for. It's a new day and age for this sort of thing and even 5 years ago, it was much, much harder for an actor to get such information out there to the whole world, searchable on Google. Nobody cared if you told a few friends you went out for this or that role, but now it's all online and the whole world can see it if you aren't careful.

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  136. Jake
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 6:57 am | Permalink

    LOL all of these reply's have simply proven what the OP said to be true. Good or bad, people can't shut up about this girl.

    She is extremely beautiful and talented. GOT would be lucky to have her, simple as that. On that note. I am ready to take my ES praise elsewhere as should the rest of you.

    Jake.

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  137. Guest
    Posted May 22, 2010 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    3 things…

    1 WiC: my friend, I'm afraid that by responding to this thread you have egged on a buncha geeks who seem to think they are investigators.

    2 Leah: there are currently 5 people on twitter claiming to be Elena Satine. I don't doubt that the person you are following is a 14 year old Brazilian boy, however you have no way of knowing whether or not any of the 4 other accts belong to ms. Satine or not. (unless they are verified by Twitter)

    3 This is by far the most retarded conversation ever had on this board. So let's just let it die, ey?

    goodnight all.

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  138. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Spot on! :)

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  139. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    Lol! AGREED! :D

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  140. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Really well put Winter Rose! I'd actually not dwelled on the abused angle myself – but sure! Having grown up with two alcoholics for parents myself – even though they managed to hide the actual drinking from me until teenhood, and in general just affected me by being unreliable and giving me a chaotic environment to grow up in – I can definately relate to the lack of confidence in abused/damaged by life take on Dany.

    I am not in any way stating that all abuse is the same as growing up with alcoholics – poeple have it far worse.
    But I can relate to how it affects you.

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  141. Posted May 22, 2010 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    As you say – Just the fact that it is WiC that states this is enough for me. I never really followed the whole SatineGate thing – only in the beginning – so I remember less than some and know even less. (Becoming curious of what I missed though)
    But WiC is reliable and there are some other people here as well that I have never heard speak out of line or bring unsolicited and offensive "news" or lies or talk in any way.
    Paul Gude, Brude to name some..
    But good choice anyway. With Ellen Page – sorry! Emilia Clarke! ;D

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  142. Posted May 22, 2010 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    I lived north of Hollywood Blvd, between Vine and Western. Right where the 101 meets Hollywood Blvd. Had some friends that lived down where you used to live though. It was nice down there. We were kind of on the border of where Hollywood goes from million dollar homes to slums. As long as you went north or west you were okay, south and east though and things could get dicey.

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  143. Posted May 22, 2010 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    Piper Perabo – who has a love affair with Lena Headey in Imagine Me And You? Now that starts getting weird….

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